Summary

Democratic divisions intensified as Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Nancy Pelosi sharply criticized Chuck Schumer for supporting a Republican-led funding bill to avoid a government shutdown.

AOC called Schumer’s decision a “betrayal,” urging Senate Democrats to reject the legislation backed by Trump and Elon Musk. Pelosi called the bill a “devastating assault” on working families.

Schumer defended his stance, arguing a shutdown would empower Trump and Musk further.

The controversy sparked suggestions among Democrats that AOC might challenge Schumer in a primary.

  • ChristmasIslandZone@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    8
    ·
    4 hours ago

    His vile cowardice is something I’m seeing people talk about, but the sheer stupidity of it isn’t touched on.

    CHUCK. HE IS GOING TO FUCKING KILL YOU! THE D NEXT TO YOUR NAME MAY AS WELL BE THE STAR OF DAVID ON YOUR CHEST YOU DUMB FUCK! DICTATORS DO NOT LET “OPPOSITION” PARTY MEMBERS LIVE. NO MATTER HOW HELPFUL THEY WERE IN GIVING THEM POWER!

    Like are you fucking stupid?

  • Debs@lemmy.zip
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    17
    ·
    5 hours ago

    AOC needs to form a new party or at least go independent with Bernie. I’d really like an alternative to the Democrats because I’ll never be voting for them again.

  • Queen HawlSera@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    24
    ·
    6 hours ago

    We will NEVER make progress by compromising with those who will not compromise with us in return.

  • Wilco@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    11
    ·
    5 hours ago

    Democrat voters are tired of compromising. MAGA thinks they want to burn the US down so they can “own the libs” … well let’s fucking do it. Let’s test their theory in the laboratory of life.

    • obvs@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      6 hours ago

      Unfortunately, he’s not up for reelection until 2028, at which time he’d be 78 years old, so probably wouldn’t be running anyway.

  • psiderman@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    25
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    8 hours ago

    The only silver lining here is the remote possibility of progressive Democrats breaking out to form their own party. At least then the US will have a legitimate opposition party.

      • unconsciousvoidling@sh.itjust.works
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        14
        ·
        6 hours ago

        I guess we will see won’t we. I’m still voting in 2026 and 2028. I’m not going to be discouraged by all the nihilists on the internet that are trying to convince me I’m powerless. Maybe I’ll find that process is finished but I’m not rolling over or giving up. Hell you could be a Russian bot trying to make us feel apathetic about voting by just vaguely going … “ you guys realize it’s all over right ? Yea keep on sucking on that copium pal! 😈”

      • Montreal_Metro@lemmy.ca
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        7 hours ago

        Yeah they had their last election, ever, back in November. If they ever hope to get election back, they’ll need to actually fight for it instead of sitting on their butts.

  • dryfter@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    2
    ·
    5 hours ago

    I am an Independent and think both sides suck on the whole political spectrum in this country. I’m also from NY and both of my Democratic senators voted to pass this blank check to Trump and Elon.

    The Democrats have gone about dealing with Trump and his disciples in Congress the completely wrong way from day one. They try to be civil and favor the traditional ways of solving things in Congress. They have basically been bringing a pink plastic toy baseball bat to a gun fight this whole time that Trump has been in office this term.

    And because of that, here we were with 2 horrible choices for them. But one choice would have shown that they had enough of the B.S. and had some kind of a spine. The “right” thing for Chuckie to do was to be united and stand firm that they wouldn’t approve this CR and force a shut down unless they had a say in some of the solutions in the bill. Pain was coming either way, why not go down fighting and show that you were on the right side of history?

    Given the past month and a half (holy shit it feels like it’s been a decade) and the track record of Elon and Trump so far, I am very afraid of what is coming in the next month and a half – let alone when this budget fight resumes in September.

  • Furbag@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    20
    ·
    10 hours ago

    About half the seated Democrats right now need to be primaried hard. How did we have a more coordinated opposition party during Trump’s first term? It’s worse this time around and they are showing absolutely no will to fight.

    • KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      3
      arrow-down
      6
      ·
      9 hours ago

      what are you supposed to do? The congress controls the budget, literally as defined by the constitution, the executive is currently trying to pretend that isn’t the law. And the supreme court doesn’t exactly seem content about doing anything over it, so it’s not like you can do much as the congress. You literally can’t win here, we have to wait for all the lawsuits to hit for anything to begin happening.

      • Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        8
        ·
        6 hours ago

        what are you supposed to do?

        Schumer went from “we have to be a united front” to “I’m gonna vote for what republicans want!” He pretended to hold the former position for less than a day.

        So uh, not that.

      • obvs@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        6 hours ago

        Hmm, yes, it’s almost as if we have a government that isn’t functioning and there seem to be no options that are legal under the current government…

    • Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      8
      ·
      10 hours ago

      That’s why I’m shocked people are shocked. It’s a shame they have to do exactly what he says.

      😐

      • kreskin@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        9
        ·
        9 hours ago

        and they can haul Pelosis carcass out as they go. They should prop her up at the stock exchange where she really works.

        • Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          3
          ·
          edit-2
          8 hours ago

          Some people get mistaken. I haven’t been pushing for the dnc for 8 years because I think they are great people. I think they are very very flawed and find no reason to elaborate on that any longer. The point was always to protect my freedoms and the freedoms of others by stopping the spread of MAGA. Calling them NAZIs is a curtesy for people who aren’t reading about them in history books. MAGA will suffice when all is said and done.

          I’ll be defiant towards MAGA until I’m dead. That’s just who I am. When the polls open I’ll vote repub lite if that’s the group that stands a chance. The DNC don’t represent me. They can try to “win my vote” but they are far from earning it.

          So either way, people, you have to decide. If the DNC some how stops MAGA in it’s tracks, how will you then deal with the DNC? I will die disgruntled and my only hope that there is still places where people like me can be disgruntled too.

  • Maggoty@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    74
    ·
    13 hours ago

    Schumer’s argument is shit. They’re going to go after government agencies with or without the funding bill. With the finding bill they get to choose. Without it they have to shut down everything. Passing that bill means they get more maneuvering room, not less.

    • makyo@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      39
      ·
      13 hours ago

      And with a shutdown the Dems would get to shout about ‘the GOP shutdown’ for however long it lasts which would also help to galvanize the public against MAGA.

  • KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    10
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    9 hours ago

    it’s a lose lose, you either push the funding through, and lock in existing funding, and bypass any weird shutdown bullshit, or you push for a government shutdown where (apparently) the executive can just make up funding numbers and start moving money places.

    So, take your pick:

    • do something: Maybe everything fucking explodes
    • do nothing: everything is already exploded, but we’re atleast aware of what’s happening