• RabbitBBQ@lemmy.world
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    To be fair, American democracy was replaced with corporate Government a long long time ago.

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    Shut down and delete your data on your US tech accounts. Their business’s are worthless without our accounts.

    It’s a process, start today! With the easy ones and work towards the hard ones.

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    any terminally ill people down to go down in history as a fucking chad with a rifle or a drone?? anyone??

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      Let’s not forget how we got here though cause if we do forget & survive this round, won’t be long before it comes back. I’m specifically referring to the pro-genocide candidate that we were all lied to about their cognition until we all saw the emperor had no clothes. Then they anointed the Cheney supporter that couldn’t think of anything she’d do differently.

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          Money gets people elected.

          Many of the ultra wealthy are bought in on the idea of cyclical history where things go golden age, decadent age, disaster, GOTO 1

          So they fund the side that is most likely to wreck things, happy in the delusion that that must cause a golden age

          Then business prefers weak government and little regulation

          Then business wants more workers so they support whatever might get more babies born

          So less capitalism, more unchecked capitalism and high inequality, and propaganda directed at those in power and the fact that to win in a 2 party democracy you just need to appeal to the bulk of people

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          Lol. Capitalism isn’t going away anytime soon. Democrats absolutely could have won if they actually stood for anything other than themselves.

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            Sure, but a big part of why they don’t do better is they want to continue the capitalist hellscape where a few people benefit from “owning” most everything.

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              Because that is the system people are subscribed to. You want big change & to take on capitalism you need a V for Vendetta. The system is built on capitalism. The best chance we’d prob have right now to take on capitalism is someone with a popular agenda that is good at acting, but once elected as President they basically say… Ha, now I’m immune & will use my platform to try to get rid of capitalism. They’d probably get assassinated real quick though. Or a complete collapse of the system.

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                It’s called building dual power, and many of us are actually doing things every day to further that goal.

                The best chance we’d prob have right now to take on capitalism is someone with a popular agenda that is good at acting, but once elected as President they basically say… Ha, now I’m immune & will use my platform to try to get rid of capitalism […] Or [cause] a complete collapse of the system.

                Is this sarcastic? Because that’s literally what we’re witnessing. We may have a chance at building a better world with better systems very soon.

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                  Not if the same establishment Democrats get reelected then claim their hands are tied whenever Republicans try their usual antics.

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                Maybe. We can still try to work on multiple things at the same time.

                Demand more from the Democrats.

                Fight the right wing.

                Push for better systems.

                No one’s going to wave a magic wand and fix everything. though it would be funny to me if more billionaires were murdered , that’s not really likely or safe.

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        fair, but Harris would have won without election rigging. Voter suppression and forced provisional ballots that were never counted.

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        pro-genocide candidate

        You realize Trump supports Russia (genocide of Ukrainians and minority ethnicities) and gave Israel the green light to continue on. Right?

        Trump wants to start a war with Canada and Greenland. Right?

        Seems like you fully support genocide. Despite having the audacity to claim otherwise.

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          I don’t support Trump & didn’t vote for him. Why in your mind does criticizing something about Democrats equate to being a Trump supporter? Maybe you should have been more critical of Democrats prior to the election & we wouldn’t be in this mess.

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            Why in your mind does criticizing something about Democrats equate to being a Trump supporter?

            idk calling the Democratic candidate “Pro-Genocide” (They are not, no matter how much you claim they are), while letting the literal pro-genocide candidate off scott free.

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              Look, I much prefer any Democratic administration over a Republican one but it’s ABSOLUTELY correct to say the Democratic Party supports a genocide. They clearly didn’t respect international law nor did they comply with arrest warrants for Netanyahu. They also continued to fund Israel after human rights violation after human rights violation. What is that other than sheer, explicit support of a genocide?

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                They clearly didn’t respect international law nor did they comply with arrest warrants for Netanyahu.

                The US is not a member of the ICC.

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              Lol, you had the Biden “proud Zionist” admin literally vetoing UN resolutions demanding a ceasefire. Instead every answer was “we’ll always stand by Israel & give them money to continue.” Clearly if you believe that isn’t pro genocide then you’re living in a different pretend reality.

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                The Biden admin has been working with Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Palestinian Authority, Qatar, HAMAS, and Israel to actually establish a real ceasefire agreement.

                Biden’s administration has been seeking a resolution that will end the blood shed. Trump’s administration is suggesting and supporting the outright REMOVAL of Palestinians. It’s not hard to see that.

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                  The same Biden administration that helped kill 70k civilians. He got walked around the park by Netanyahu. Democrats & Republicans are both Israel first. The sooner you face reality the sooner Democrats will actually have to do something to earn votes. Look at where we’re at now. Did you make excuses for them to get us here?

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                  You’ll never win this argument on Lemmy. The population here “know” that “genocide Joe” was the key enabler of Israel’s aggression and they can’t see nuance

                  As I see it Biden couldn’t disarm Israel as Israel disarmed would be obliterated, and that’s political suicide in America

                  Of course a Democrat government was lending whatever diplomatic weight they could to establishing lasting peace in the middle east - that would be a popular win if they succeeded

                  I lost a tiktok watching friend over this

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            lmao

            The people of Palestine will be the only people suffering and dying for your support of the turbo genocide candidate.

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    Streisand effect: I had never heard of the “network state” until now. Uh, thanks for being such an asshole, Zuck!

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    Everyone needs to GTFO facebook. We can hardly do it because every other HOA and School PTA is there, but we get stop using messenger and stop having personal discussions over there.

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        Oh they can’t force you. You can always rely on the pta just to send you papers home and backpacks and you don’t really need to talk to your neighbors or have them report problems in a public forum

        There’s enough value for these places that I still go back to Facebook for it, they’re not forcing me. They just make it worth it.

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      Contact those places and ask for an alternative -the less people participate the quieter the discussions the more likely they are to at least try to switch over if they start feeling some pressure.

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        I agree that it needs to happen but contacting these places and asking them for an alternative is a lot like contacting a deep sea tube worm and asking it to learn brain surgery.

        They’re probably capable of moving from one social platform to another, But it’s a lot of work and they’re destroying their network every time so they’re highly resistant.

        If Apple wasn’t such a pain in the ass about notification services We could probably crowdsource NTFY and let everyone use it for schools non-profits and such

        The best we could expect us for them to move to Blue sky. Health in my case half of them just recently moved off Twitter.

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        WhatsApp is a serious problem. There are quite a number of countries that are running a lot of their business through it.

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      I was fortunate that my partner never used Facebook, so I got to hold “communication with their sibling/child” over their heads and get the family chat onto signal. That was my last thing I had to do before I could delete my account

      The most fun was sending a message to each of the Facebook friends: hi (name) I’m deleting my Facebook account, if you want to contact me online I can be reached on signal at (signal ID)

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        My wife and I were on Facebook Messenger a lot. Then she started pointing out every time we would talk about any topic she would get ads for it. I talked her into using signal.

        We added the teenager into it, now the only serious problem I have is the little one could stand to be on the family chat in signal but he doesn’t have a phone number.

        I tried making an account for him with my Google voice number, for some reason it refused on his Wi-Fi only tablet. So I made him an account using my real phone number, then remade my account using my Google voice number on my phone which worked, But now his signal account flips back and forth between his name and my name and it’s just very confused. It’s good enough but I wish there was some way you could do signal without having to do a phone number. Especially a sub account for kids you know…

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          I thought I heard recently about signal allowing a different ID system, but I think that’s about not having to share your phone number, as against them IDing you with a phone number which I expect they will keep doing

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            signal allowing a different ID system

            It used to surface your number to all your contacts, now they only see your handle.

            Still have to use a phone number to sign up.

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      It’s fascist city states that market themselves as tax free libertarian, likely hedonistic. Tech has little (maybe ultra deregulated healthcare) to do with anything other than billionaires who came from tech get to decide who is allowed in. This is a model in Israel and Arab kingdoms with less hedonism, but high slavery levels.

      The US is definitely on path to collapse. Current administration is accelerating it. Gifting federal lands to become tax havens is setting it to 11.

      Many of these tech bros also talk about an actual solution: Freedom dividends. High tax libertarianism with freedom for all. Power redistribution. Don’t compete for jobs we can’t do as well as China or robots. Or spend on/promote war. Freedom dividends ends crimes and makes fair labour markets. Fascism and slavery as the “libertarian utopian phoenix from ashes of US” is going to be straight mad max fascism and slavery instead of utopia.

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      I’m reading the Sprawl trilogy along with Shelved By Genre, and Gibson harps on the note that ‘the Ultra Rich aren’t human’, and has some great examples in the books.

      I think he was very observant, and Musk makes it so blatant.

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      Basically. I mean there’s a bit more to it than that but it’s the core idea. It’s also the goal of several tech oligarchs which is why he doesn’t want the peons to be able to talk about it.

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      My friends have been describing America now as cyberpunk without the cybernetics. We have no neuromancers

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    The real title:

    “Meta rep flagged ‘critiques of tech industry figures’ as ‘sensitive or controversial content’”

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    Zuckerberg, go play with your BBS and let us worry about what needs to be discussed in this myopic, dystopic world.