The mods at r/popculture pointed it out. And then the screenshot above.
The subreddit drama
The oligarchs are getting nervous. Good. I hope they are a scared. Fuck their platforms and their false backing of “free speech.”
They won’t be scared until there’s another Luigi.
I’m just going to latch onto the top comment…
An actual reddit admin posted this 2 days ago:
Today we are rolling out a new (sort of) enforcement action across the site. Historically, the only person actioned for posting violating content was the user who posted the content. The Reddit ecosystem relies on engaged users to downvote bad content and report potentially violative content. This not only minimizes the distribution of the bad content, but it also ensures that the bad content is more likely to be removed. On the other hand, upvoting bad or violating content interferes with this system.
So, starting today, users who, within a certain timeframe, upvote several pieces of content banned for violating our policies will begin to receive a warning. We have done this in the past for quarantined communities and found that it did help to reduce exposure to bad content, so we are experimenting with this sitewide. This will begin with users who are upvoting violent content, but we may consider expanding this in the future. In addition, while this is currently “warn only,” we will consider adding additional actions down the road.
We know that the culture of a community is not just what gets posted, but what is engaged with. Voting comes with responsibility. This will have no impact on the vast majority of users as most already downvote or report abusive content. It is everyone’s collective responsibility to ensure that our ecosystem is healthy and that there is no tolerance for abuse on the site.
This was the only thing left reddit had going for itself: that users can influence the algorithm with their votes.
The subredditDrama posts are here:
reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/1j5cqq1/multiple_subreddits_express_concern_after_reddit/ reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/1j5tcgj/after_an_rpopculture_moderator_is_suspended/As someone who switched to feddit just a few days ago I can say this has been building up. Small things like deciding which comments get visibility, phasing out old.reddit, doing nothing about bots, introducing bot/karmafarma-friendly mechanisms, an uptick in pro-MAGA posts/comments as well as disinfo bots … but still, this feels like an uncharacteristically large step.
So, starting today, users who, within a certain timeframe, upvote several pieces of content banned for violating our policies will begin to receive a warning.
I saw users warning other users to be careful (how they upvote) or they might get banned. I don’t know what else screams “censorship” and “hostile environment” quite like encouraging your own users to caution those around them to shut up.
It is everyone’s collective responsibility to ensure that our ecosystem
It’s whose responsibility?? HAHAHAH
Just nuked my entire reddit account due to this blatant censorship. Hello Lemmy and lemm.ee it’s nice to be here
Me too.
Welcome I have been a reddit refugee for some time. And have been having a great time.
Welcome you two! We’ve got Star Trek, Linux and beans!
…
Hopefully some other topics will become viable later.
Hey everyone, there’s a lot of you. You ever think maybe you can just troll them by none stop posting to all their subreddits. Hell the mods are like the same 20 people in over 5000 sub reddits. That’s a weak point.
They banned my old reddit account because I reported fake news that was being posted on r/conservative. Apparently subreddit mods can report users who use the report tool and can just get you banned.
They recently, meaning I don’t exactly know when it happened, gave mods the ability to report you for “Abuse of the report tool”. For the record, I’m a mod on some subreddits, and that’s an absurd thing to need. I’ve learned a few things about being a Reddit mod.
- It’s not nearly as hard as some mods make you think it is.
- If they actually experience difficulty, it’s probably cause they suck at being a mod.
- Subs that experience issues, are typically cess pools like r/conservative.
yea ive been reported for “report abuse” when the comments were legitimately trolls or obviously posting misinformation, crossbanning is also just as ridiculous. from what ive gathered, some mods are lazy into responding to every post being reported so they decided just to get rid of the reporter instead having to deal with.
I got banned because I posted a comment on an anti vaxx sub (I was challenging one of their comments) and found out a lot of subs had ban bots that just watched who posted to subs they didn’t like. Whatever you do don’t put any thought into your mod work or look at the comment’s context.
I got a warning for a similar thing. They can disagree with the report, but warning/banning users for it is insane
i got hit with report abuse a couple times. there were legitimate comments that should be reported but not getting removed.
And then they say “if a user is breaking the rules, don’t engage, use the report button.”
Which is stupid. A mod can just ban you forever and call it a day. Where the Admins have fucked up is if you harass a mod via modmail, they can only mute you for I think 28 days max, before you can start harassing them again. So, instead of letting a mod simply mute you forever, they created the report bullshit.
I got permanently banned for pointing out that a popular sex advice subreddit was being run by a rapist…
So sad…I loved Reddit…I’m so sad to see it come to this. I’m so sad for all of the young people who think this is how the internet should be……
Ive been on Reddit for 10 to 15 years. Its always been a strange place but ive never seen anything like what’s going on at the moment.
- weird rules (like ‘Luigi’) being applied system-wide without being communicated
- automated actions applied to individual users site-wide, like allowing them to engage but preventing them from creating posts anywhere
- over zealous mods. I’m assuming a lot of mods got sick of it and left over the last few years and those doing the work are under experienced. Or maybe just AI. Its possible.
- GPTs engaging in posts and comments for training
- agents from hostile governments agitating and spurring on political discussions that favour their agenda.
So yeah I’m giving up on it now, its just no fun anymore.
Yeah, this sure. But I think primarily Reddit doesn’t want its platform to be used to organize and protest. This is how they are setting the stage.
Yeah, this sure. But I think primarily Reddit doesn’t want its platform to be used
to organize and protest. This is how they are setting the stage.Fixed it for you
I am pretty sure a bunch of mods on big subreddits are actually Reddit employees cosplaying as normal users too.
Oh, and Reddit is now shadow banning your accounts when you evade a ban on a sub. So now I got all my accounts shadow banned because I ended up commenting on a sub I was banned on one account without noticing it, so I have zero reasons to go back to using reddit anymore. At least before I got a ban and was notified about how long it would take for my accounts to be usable again, now they are shadow banned without any notifications and I have no idea if they will ever go back to normal or not, so fuck it.
oh yea i know some admins can be the mods. there are 92 mods that own over 500 subs, so i would think they are part of this power group of mods. and then we got the lowly mods of the regular subs. i heard about the blanket shadowbans in another site, they still do that to people who had100s of accts, but it also hit regular people too, that dint even violate a policy, so im thinking its an AI doing all these bannings and so many innocents are just caught up, and they cant even repeal it.
I got banned three times in a month, and now I’m finally permanently banned. This is America.
Reddit has gone full fascist. Wow. Never thought I’d see the day.
spez does love musk and trump
The cuck CEO loves Elon and is an enthusiastic meat rider.
Nothing wrong with being meat rider mate, catch on with the times.
I did. I left more than a year ago after I was permabanned for asking a question about whether someone would be banned if they asked certain things. Fuck those guys. I hear Digg is coming back though.
oh, reddit doesnt allow discussion of reddit ban in most cases.
Sounds a lot like Nazi Germany, or Lenin’s & Stalin’s USSR.
especially the subs were you are discussing help with reddit, and many subs dont allow it. Only time its allowed was when a sub has article talking about reddits enshittification.
Legit question -not tryna start shit/trigger intentionally: has this kind of reddit response ever happened before? Ive been on reddit for the past 10+ years, but as a comfy lurker. I remember “internal” reddit issues when the 3rd party thing was a thing.
(Quotes bc, from my POV as a lurker/casual user, the upset regarding reddit nixing 3rd party was too meta for me to really understand beyond “this is bad for reddit users”)
I’ve gained enough info by casual usage-proxy to move over to lemme. But ngl, im not grasping the magnitude of why “reddit is bad now”. I dont disagree, but i couldnt explain on my own to an outsider why i agree with that sentiment.
Obviously, censorship is bad mmmkay - I’m not questioning this. I have a gut feeling that making the switch and getting my global info from the fediverse is a good call. I just can’t express why, and am requesting assistance from the community’s exp in how I can express that. This seems like as good a topic ad any for a platform to discuss the matter.
it wasnt that bad before, trumps 1st term, then every sub became extremely sensitive to many topics, and politics started to infilitrate a ton of subs(you have the bots to thank for it) this is just the latest result of it. this last election, reddit went to overdrive to ban anyone. i found myself moving between different acc, to seperate the accounts liability to potential bans(acct for specific niches).
TL;DR - ELI5 why current reddit is bad, assuming I have no bias. Because I don’t, other than like minded community opinion telling me it’s bad now. I’d like to be able to express to others why, should the opportunity present itself.
Some quick points:
-
blocked off API access (last I checked you could get around this by paying an exorbitant fee 🙄) meaning 3rd party apps don’t work and you absolutely must use the official app which is garbage and collects all kinds of data from what I’ve heard (never used it) as well as disabling services that do stuff with reddit data from the API such as mass delete scripts users would use to get their content off reddit
-
fertile ground for bots and bad actors to manipulate, misinform and recruit users into alt-right and other spaces that perpetuate harm
-
moderation policies and practices that allow and in some cases encourage Nazi shit while blocking or restricting harm reduction, LGBTQIA+, anti-fascist, etc topics
-
massive astroturfing and dis/misinfo campaigns
-
flagging the word “Luigi” for violent content with automod and giving people warnings for upvoting content that goes against preferred narratives
And certainly more that I’m forgetting
-
That’s why I’m here. Reddit started getting super censored so I was looking for an alternative and was directed here. It’s fucking ridiculous.
Same. I originally came here after they killed off 3rd party apps, then I figured out how to patch RiF again and didn’t spend as much time here.
The propaganda and misinformation have gotten to be too much. Advice subs are all fake AI stories. Admins are making a fuss about people breaking the rules, but refuse to disclose what the rules actually are.
I really enjoy Lemmy. The downside is that it’s not as easy to organize (and find) niche spaces like on reddit. I’m hoping the small communities have grown more since the first mass migration.
theres some niche subs that likely wont be replicated here anytime soon.
Welcome, sibling! I came over in the rush after the reddit API debacle. Some things I’ve learned in the last year:
We may not have Sprog here yet, but get to know the environment, including colorful fauna such as:
- Cephalopods that have Colonized the Skies.
- The embodiment of the habitual movements of a space captain.
- People that are kind-of like ossified remains.
- People whose entire self identities revolve around draconic coitus (and all the controversy this brings).
The vast majority of posts are made by, like, ten people, and I’m pretty sure they never sleep. I’m currently unconvinced that Flying Squid isn’t just a full colony of Humboldt Squid, constantly ramming into a giant submerged keyboard.
As far as controversies: Avoid the “tankies”. You will find them on Hexbear, Lemmy.ml, and lemmygrad. They will not be going away, since the original creator of Lemmy is, apparently, one of them, and seems kind of mad with power. They treat with no man, and are willing to do anything to convince you that authoritarianism is good, as long as it calls itself “socialism”. One would think they would have learned their lesson from “National Socialism”… They apparently have not. Not everyone from those servers is a tankie, but most tankies are on those servers. Think of Tankies as the lemmy subspecies of those trolls you shouldn’t be feeding.
Contribute to discussions! Especially on a place as small as Lemmy, lurking actively harms the community! Unlike most places, it’s generally fairly easy to figure out who’s being disingenuous and arguing in bad faith, and most people are very reasonable! (As long as you never say anything bad about Linux. Be forewarned. Do not engage unless your autonomic nervous system runs Arch)
Welcome!
I received a permanent ban from Reddit last week, and I’m here for the same reason. And Reddit IS turning facist, as the rich close ranks. Fuck them. Any “spirited” criticism of Trump/Musk is characterized as encouraging violence and results in temporary bans, many of which I received, until recently when I apparently crossed a line which was too offensive (to the Mods). Therefore…
Welcome to Lemmy, bud!
We have lots of Linux and Star Trek memes.
I highly recommend that when you update “all” or your “front page” - be sure to set youe filter for “Hot” results. Gets you the fresh, interesting shit.
Great tip! I’ll do just that! Thanks, pal!
I’ve been over here for a year off and on, Lemmy ain’t bad at all, could use some more resistance joining for sure.
When I first joined lemmy was ass. But it has passed the threshold for content to be useable now. I like it.
the immense amount of bans they came last month, ongoing since nov 5th is just made some of us come here. they are going to keep banning, or make it easier to ban until only right propaganda is left, also the increased amount of on the ability to ban people that “report other people” has also increased. you can get banned for reporting someone or reporting “too much” apparently.
Reddit’s strategy is to replace all users with AI bots rented from Elon.
There’s going to come a point when the things we can’t say may need to be said. A time when the message is delivered with blank comments.
[ . . . ] will carry a message of it’s own that becomes much more difficult to ban.
you cant eve say black person or demographic without getting reported in many cases, so i just use AA abreviate instead, when referring to the people most hurt by gop and economic policies.
Yea, my blessed Fediverse brethren, hear ye!
Mark thy holy lemmings, gird thy loins with smelling salts and prepare for the unwashed tides. The memes will be terrible and swift, and no one will be safe from the waves of idiocy.
Tremble, for the 2nd Dawn of the Age of Incelius has arrived, and the Reddexodus Reddux is upon us!
gird thy loins with smelling salts
I’m going to wrap so much ammonium carbonite around my junk
Reddit has been doing this shit for years. It’s a big reason why I left. Spez (little piggie) was only the catalyst.
A few ban-happy,power tripping moderators did come over here, though. I don’t have specifics on that, I just know I’ve seen them, and I’ve also been banned for some real dumb shit. I just stay away from those communities/instances.
This feels somewhat different because previously, generally speaking, the problematic subreddits (jailbait, fat people hate, etc) were pretty much isolated to that subreddit, so action could be taken to that subreddit without a big blast radius to the rest of the site. Also, for the most part, the issues were targeting marginalized people. Going after people in the comments of r/popculture for upvoting a comment about Luigi is nothing like previous controversies.
For a brief few years we had communication platforms that could topple dictatorships but now here we are.
Yeah, now we have platforms that can topple democracies
they ban for upvoting “eat the rich” too.
yet reddit admins never had a problem with thedonalds posters litteraly saying people should be shot and other violent rhetoric for years. the key difference is this time the billionaire class got upset.
Welcome to Fascist America.
